Election Fraud Story Gets Worse: Irregularities Tied to E-Voting Machine Companies that Donated to Clinton Fund

From the same people who released the study showing the extraordinarily high probability that Hillary Clinton exceeded exit polling results in states that had no paper trail to use to audit the vote, we now get some even more "interesting" developments.

It seems that Hillary did especially well in which states where the owners of two of the three companies that make and support e-voting machines, donated to the Clinton Fund.

Interestingly, much information has recently come to light about the Clinton candidacy. Notably, the hacker Guccifer 2.0 released documents which he took from the computer network of the Democratic National Committee. Among these files, one tabulated a list of big-money donors to the Clinton Foundation. One fact has gone unreported in the media: Two of the three companies that control the electronic voting market, namely Dominion Voting and H.I.G. Capital (i.e. Hart Intercivic), are in this list of big-money donors.

To examine the possibility that the products linked to these companies had been used to commit electoral fraud, we borrowed the methodology of a paper by Francois Choquette and James Johnson (C&J). Their paper is based on one of the basic principles in the biological and social sciences: As the amount of data increases, the measurement of the average approaches the ‘true’ average. In other words, as more data is added, the average fluctuates less and less. [...]

You see, these same voting irregularities had been shown to occur in the 2008 and 2012 elections in favor of McCain and Romney, respectively, by the researchers, Choquette and Johnson. In 2008 and 2012, McCain and Romney" were "financially interconnected with two of the major electronic voting companies." Both the companies who donated to the Clinton Foundation share a history of past election controversies and conviction for white collar crimes.

So, Rodolpho Cortes Barragan, Standford and Axel Geijsel, Tilburg University, used the same methodology Choquette and Johnson to examine the primary results in 2016. Here's what they found just in Louisana:

When we looked at the results of the Republican primaries, we did not observe that any candidate kept gaining a larger and larger share of the vote at larger precincts (meaning the lines were relatively stable as precinct size increased). However, when we looked at the Democratic primaries, we observed severe abnormalities. Namely, the share of votes that Hillary Clinton received kept increasing (leading to a whopping 25%). This type of statistical abnormality is seen in almost every parish (county). It does not appear in any parish for the Republican primary ...

Funny how no "funny business" ever occurred this year in the Republican primaries, only the Democratic ones. But I digress ...

In their new study, Barragan and Geijsel didn't look at the exit polling, which was immediately attacked by many Clinton supporters attacked the use of exit polls (often with little or no knowledge of statistics) as vaild, such as Ari Bermin in an attack piece he wrote for The Nation. This time Barragan and Geijsel looked at pre-election polls of likely voters, to see what effect the election results varied from those polls in states with and without a paper trail, on a county by county basis. Here's what they had to say:

[We uncovered] new information that suggests to a concerted effort to swing the election in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Specifically, we move beyond comparing the official results to the controversial exit polls. Instead, we examine a relatively neglected set of numbers: The expected result based on pre-election polls of likely voters. 337 such polls are listed on the database provided by Real Clear Politics, representing 139,231 voters across 34 primary states.

We found that while the polls were quite successful at predicting Clinton’s numbers in states with paper trails (just a statistically inconsequential 1% difference), Clinton over-performed by an average of 9% in the states that use electronic voting machines but fail to provide paper evidence of this vote

Heer's that result as expressed in a bar graph. The blue bars show what the pre-election polls predicted the percentage of votes Hillary would receive versus the red bars, which show the actual election result for Clinton.

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As you can see, in states with no paper trail because the votes were counted on untraceable e-voting machines, Hillary improved by a whopping nine (9) percent increase over pre-election polling results for likely voters, whereas in states where paper trails existed, she only exceeded the pre-election polls by one (1) percent. Ironic eh, one percent? It's as if someone with a black comedic sensibility was writing this year's election "script."

In an ironic twist of fate, the basis if electronic voting machines being used to steal an election was actually reported in this 2004 article in The Nation, when they feared the Democratic Presidential nominee, John Kerry, would lose because of Republican manipulation of our votes. Now, however, that the Democratic Party Establishment candidate stands accused of benefiting from the same electronic voting machine that cannot be audited, they sing a different tune. No rigged election this time, despite numerous studies that have demonstrated votes have likely been manipulated by these exact same machines, whether comparing final voting results to exit polls or pre-election polls.

Here's Baragan & Geigsel's understated response to this result:

Thus, pollsters were quite accurate in predicting the outcome, but only in states where fraud is hardest to hide. This situation is completely flipped in the states where the placed vote cannot be verified, as the vote only ever existed in the machines. [...]

Why would voters in larger precincts favor one candidate over the other by such a wide margin? We have been unable to come up with a reasonable psychological or sociological reason that would apply only to voters voting in the Democratic primary.

In conclusion, the data suggests that Clinton won in counties and in states where Clinton Foundation donors are responsible for the voting machines. Thus, we strongly believe that the risk posed by unverifiable electronic voting should not be taken. Our country should go back to verifiable voting. An honest election is more important than a day of labor.

Cue the Correct the Record and Hillary supporters (or hired trolls) CT whiners in one, two, three ...

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Steven D's picture

to examine strange anomalies is election results is definitive proof that you are a conspiracy theorist.

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the variances of the average tend to stabilize or reach a 'steady state'.

That's why only a minimum sample size from a population is needed, and above that, it's just unnecessary to take more samples. Random and independent sampling is sufficient and necessary to get an understanding of the big picture.

Bayes in England began the idea of reasoning with probability in 1763 in England. We've had almost two and a half centuries of advances in statistical science. Dutch sociologist Marcel van Dam is credited with creating exit polling in the Netherlands in 1967. It's proven it's worth all over the world and only a few mindless shills in the US will try to make up silly arguments against it.

Of course, hand counting is an additional way of verifying votes. Canada hand-counts all the millions of votes in about four hours. None of our critics, these fraud-deniers, ever dare to bring up this forbidden subject in official elections.

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Exit polls were used for years in this country, as well as many countries around the world. They were amazingly accurate. That was until Karl Rove started screwing with the votes. The media used to do the exit polling, but stopped when they proved to be inaccurate. The media bought the excuse, and stopped doing exit polling. When we repeal the 2nd Amendment, we ought to throw in the press protection in the 1st Amendment. They're not doing their jobs, and haven't for years.

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Alphalop's picture

Stupidity or wackjobbery?

Sure there are both, but there ARE conspiracies out there and of course they are ALL theory until proven.

Gravity is just a conspiracy theory to keep us down man.....

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We are just screwed.

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to schtup them. They dance for the most money.

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one way or another.

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tourniquet's picture

someone had thought to confiscate and sequester a few random machines from these states with no paper trail. surely someone could tear the code apart before the election.

i'm sure it's probably too late now, because there's no way they'd allow such a hack to exist any longer than necessary.

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And all the voting company computers and storage. If I thought I could have pulled it off, it would have been worth going to jail for it.

What I really wonder is why Anonymous hasn't worked at hacking the vote. Or maybe they tried, and were sent to some East European gulag for it. Or to an anonymous grave.

Vote on paper, count by hand. It ain't that hard.

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Alphalop's picture

Mickey Mouse or some other fictitious character is the winner.

Maybe that would get our short attention span having fellow citizens to finally pay attention to the crap that is happening.

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if a fictional character won the Presidency.

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does anyone know if voting machines are connected to any sort of net? or do they just store votes on media?

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US voting equipment is usually networked. Votes are often sent thru mysterious IP networks off-site for "processing".

Executable code can be made with a built-in timer to self-destruct or erase itself automatically. So it would be hard to find how the votes were being shifted or stolen inside the black boxes.

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During the 10 months I frequented TMMMT, I noted that each and every time someone brought up facts like these, that person was villified as engaging in conspiracy theory. No one offered an explanation for the anomalies but directed a personal attack.

This is that type of data that calls out for more investigation and points to the areas where the investigations should be concentrated.

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"LOP" and "TMMMT"? I am out of the acronym loop.

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There is a website http://www.acronymfinder.com that helps.

Unfortunately some C99 users are addicted to acronyms and even make up their own from time to time. No help for these. I complain when the frustration gets too much but am always answered with "if you were typing on a [small device of some kind] you would use acronyms too." I just ignore the damn things because if I can't get it from context I figure it's not important. At least not to me. Thus, acronyms make me a difficult person.

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I wish the OC would clarify this, please.

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but if you meant TOP and it was a typo that is "The Other Place" aka "The Great Orange Satan".

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voting machine screen.

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Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule

As we concluded previously, so we learn now that not only did Clinton omit key emails to the government, and often times the official schedule omitted - if not outright "redacted" - key names and events as well while Clinton was the Secretary of State, she further "burned" other schedules entirely. Ironically, just as the case was with Abedin submitted an email that Hillary chose to keep from the government, the daily planning schedules from Hillary's aides now shines a light on the detail Clinton tried to keep from the public record once again.

Just more of the destroying government records that is the SOP of HRC (Hiding Real Conspiracies).

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Is ostensibly to get the results more quickly. Who benefits beside the media that wants to tell an instant story? Why do we need the results in less than four hours as in Canada, or even four days for that matter? Depending on the election the winner is not sworn in for weeks - the first of the following year at the earliest. So what is the rush?

Paper ballots are the one sure way to ensure accurate counting of results. Is accuracy not more important than speed? This issue is even more important than big money in politics because even if we reduce the money in elections, what good does it do us if we can't get an accurate count of the votes?

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who would be glad to oversee or even count paper ballots. Counting, if there are multiple referenda, candidate levels, etc, I have no idea if they are counted one level at a time. Optical scanning with retained paper ballots would be fine IF chain of custody of the scanners to tabulators were done with no internet connection and statistical sampling. How does Canada do it? Or could there be wiggle room there?

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I'll have to go find it, but they have a 4th branch of government for strictly elections.

Paper ballots are counted on location, in public, by citizens drawn by lottery.

It is nearly scam proof. Although, I wonder if they've ever dealt with someone like Medusa?

Edit: hope link to actual comment works
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/120803#comment-120803

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And I'll bet Bolivia's system costs less than ours to boot.

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why it is rumored that the US government is interested in overthrowing the 'evil dictator' Evo Morales in Bolivia... fair elections ... those uppity south American countries exercising democracy like Chile in 1973 before Pinochet and his death squads were installed into power.

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Some are completely electronic, and there's nothing to count. Some have tabulators that tabulate the paper ballots. They're handy for announcing winners quickly. If there's a question about the vote, paper ballots can be manually counted. Those damn electronic machines are the problem, and lots of states bought them with the HAVA funds. NM bought and used them in the 2004 election. The vote was so questionable, they were replaced by the next election. If you look at results in NM during presidential years, 2004 was the only year we voted Repuke since 2000. Funny, huh?

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Stranger things have happened. I guess. I'll want a bunker if she does. This place will go fucking nuts. Secession will be eminent. I swear if she pulls this shit in the general too, I'm going to do my best to leave the country.

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Hell, I think we all should secede.

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But why even use machines for tabulating. I mean what is the gd hurry to announce winners quickly? I get it that the ballots can be manually counted if there is a problem, but why wait till there is a problem? I mean who decides if there is a problem? I'm advocating for 100% manual counting with automatic recounts within a certain margin TBD by law. Seems the example of NM means one election was probably stolen and one election is too many.

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Christine.MI's picture

MASTERS, of course!

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Alphalop's picture

particularly with something so important.

I don't care if it takes a month to get the results, I want them to be fucking HONEST!

One can't help but wonder how much more they can pile on before the whole situation explodes into mass unrest.

I think it may be much closer than many would think.

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even before polls are closed winners are announced without exit polling. What could go wrong? Ya think USA Today will ever show the multiple layers of scam? Any MSM?

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can actually call the race before the single largest state in the whole damn nation has even voted.

That right there should show what a farce this election, and our political process in general, and the media has become.

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I hate them so goddamned much.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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Lol, liars always like to get their story in fast and first, with a natural disregard for the facts. The Big Lie works, when reality must be denied, as when by those who count the votes and record the numbers.

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I mean really, you would think most people in this country and especially voters, no matter who they vote for, would want their votes to be counted! I am truly ashamed of what this country has become. The only term for this is a COUP!

I'm so disgusted, if I could leave this country I would.

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Like a mute person witnessing an atrocity, that cannot signal for help. I appreciate your essays, Steven. You have a gift and a powerful voice. Keep up the good work and maybe, just maybe there will come a tipping point, when average Americans pay attention to the theft going on right in front of them, and GET PISSED about it!!

This lying, colluding, conspiring, CRIMINAL asshole can not be allowed to become president!

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without use of arms to even dial a phone for help.

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Correlation doesn't equal causation!
There's no evidence!
You're a Trump enabling, sore loser, Berniebro!
You're a neanderthal sexist woman hater!
Satan-Hitler will reign supreme because of you!

Am I convincing enough, or was the Satan-Hitler not over the top enough?

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I'm still traumatized, lol!

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preferably a web site, where all the voting irregularity information is compiled in an organized way? Somebody asked me for that a week or so ago and I looked at Sane Progressive's blogspot but it wasn't very helpful. Required sifting thru a whole bunch of her blog posts and videos and looked more like a promo for her channel. I'd like to be able to send a link out if anybody has done the work compiling it.

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though I'm not sure how comprehensive a list it is.

https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/

The problem that always gets raised when you refer to Charnin, however, is that he beleives the JFK assassination resulted from a conspiracy. I don't believe he is alone in that belief, but it is always used by the anti-election fraud people to attack his credibility.

Nonetheless, the links he provides are useful. But you may need to dig for a lot of his blog posts to get to them. I don't think he has an archive that has all the links to other people's studies. Here is the link to his own blog post archive: https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/my-website/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_As...

The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) was established in 1976 to investigate the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. The HSCA completed its investigation in 1978 and issued its final report the following year, concluding that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.

I notice that over the years even this Wikipedia article has been subject to twist and spin. More and more statements have been inserted that appear to bolster the Warren Commission, that is, they appear to support the exact opposite of the select committee’s express conclusion.

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Who are you going to believe: us, or your lying eyes? That’s the good word from Democratic Party powers that be and their transcribers in the corporate media, in response to the “allegations” by Bernie Sanders supporters that the nomination was stolen by Hillary Clinton.

I used scare quotes around the word “allegations” because the truth is plain to see and undeniable by anyone with a microgram of honesty: Hillary Clinton cheated. If the rules had been followed, Bernie Sanders would be the nominee.

As with all things Clinton, of course, definitions matter. It depends on what the meaning of “cheat” is.

To most people, “cheating” means breaking the rules of a contest. By this standard definition, there’s no doubt that the Clinton campaign, its political allies and the Democratic National Committee cheated in favor of Clinton and against Sanders. They broke the law. They disenfranchised voters. They broke party rules. And they violated long-standing customs that are so widely accepted that they are essentially de facto rules of the Democratic Party and the American political system.

Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, ran a clean campaign.

Emphasis added. More at this link: Hillary Cheated

#JillNotHill #BernieOrBust

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1. I continue to see the claims by these authors that Virginia doesn't have "paper ballots and a paper trial". This claim is just false -- it's based on the machines that were in use in the 2014 election cycle.

There may be jurisdictions where they are still in use, but most of the large and most populous counties transitioned over to paper ballots/scantrons in the spring primary (e.g. the transition was prompted by security concerns over the old touch screen systems). If someone wanted to do an audit, there is a paper trail.

2. They talk about the two as "sister" states. Maybe things look that way for someone who is just looking at one variable (e.g. racial composition), but it's not accurate. Take median income. In North Carolina it's $46,000. In Virginia it's $62,000. That's a big difference.

Also keep in mind, some of the richest, and most consistently Democratic counties in America are in Northern Virginia. The Democrats in these counties are much more similar to voters in Maryland's DC suburbs than those in North Carolina. e.g. this is the heart of the political establishment. It's pretty incredible that Sanders even got one-third of the vote.

In the case of advertising, I don't think Sanders actually spent any money in Virginia. Clinton spent at least $500K on ads. However, he did spend money in North Carolina, probably outspent Clinton.

The most consistent variables that predict a Sanders/Clinton voter are age, income and race. In that order. The areas of Virginia outside the Beltway may have more in common with North Carolina, but that Beltway area is one-quarter of the state's population, and a huge part of the Democratic vote share.

I can't speak to every state -- in the case of Puerto Rico, the vote was clearly rigged in the most ham-fisted way. New York City's vote definitely looks like it was gamed. However, in the case of Virginia and North Carolina, I don't find the "election fraud" argument persuasive.

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is identical to what happened in Kansas and is being sued:

"Wichita State University statistician Beth Clarkson had been pursuing the case herself, but now has a Wichita lawyer representing her. Other people have set up a non-profit foundation for donations.

A Sedgwick County judge is expected to set filing deadlines and a trial date at a Monday hearing.

Clarkson has analyzed election returns in Kansas and elsewhere over several elections that indicate "a statistically significant" pattern where the percentage of Republican votes increase the larger the size of the precinct. The pattern could indicate election fraud."

A guess for the fraud algorithm is that the machines count the votes normally when there are few votes so all testing will not show any anomaly. However, when the number of votes is getting heavy then it will start to miscount.

In a way, it's rather like the Volkswagen emission cheat. The software was designed to figure out whether the car was really idling or just throttling under a test or it's being run for real and behaves differently to give either less emission or more power.

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This is the new web site developed by LieparDestin of the BNR daily articles on DK/TOP/orange crap

title of article

CA Election Update Tue 7-5-2016 – 50+ Links – DAY 28 AFTER California’s Election Day – 287,782 voters ballots not counted – 2 Election Lawsuits- w/ potential National Ramifications still alive

CA Election Update Tue 7-5-2016 – 50+ Links – DAY 28 AFTER California’s Election Day – 287,782 voters ballots not counted – 2 Election Lawsuits- w/ potential National Ramifications still alive

As you can see the focus is on CA.

This is a series posted by CA Democrat and each one has an ongoing set of links

They link a lot to trustvote.com an election integrity effort in CA

Very interesting that the coverage here at C99% and at theprogressivewing on election integrity is excellent. On TOP/DK/? they are in denial, conspiracy theory, etc. on this whole issue.

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The actors from Central Ohio include

Bob Fitrakis, an atty, college prof, head of Green party in OH, author of 6 books on elections, editor of Columbus Free Press - a publication mostly now on line that has been going since the 1970's

Cliff Arnebeck, an atty, spent a long time in DC, has been litigating elections since 2000, for many years trying to put Karl Rove in jail for throwing elections

Harvey Wasserman, anti nuclear activist for 50 years, teaches at same college as Bob F., historian, co author of recent book with Bob.

Bob and Cliff have made trips to CA to work with the group there with Lori Grace

The videos of Bob and Cliff were shot at meetings in CA. The leader, Lori Grace, and their main web page is trustvote.org

A patchwork of Cliff saying that a RICO suit is being filed in OH (racketeering) and will have national implications as well. Also, the entire election was thrown.

Election Protection Lawsuit (in just under 7 minutes)

This is a 14 min video of Lori Grace (from CA), Bob and Cliff talking about election issues. A content video and a get to know the actors video.

Lori Grace, Bob FItrakis, Cliff Arnebeck - Legal Team

This is from a 2+ hour meeting on May 29, 2016 in which Lori, Bob and Cliff talk about a suit even before the CA Primary. The suit was not filed because Cliff sent a letter to voting machine makers that they were on notice, and the exit polls in CA and NJ were cancelled. This effort had to hire professional exit poll people to do a sample exit polls in both states and this is one of the main reasons that the suits have been delayed -- May 29, 2016

Protecting Our Elections

And another video up on trustvote.org with Lori, Bob and Cliff again posted on June 16, 2016 when Bob and Cliff were in CA again

Protecting Our Elections (first night) UPDATED

The video was filmed on July 1 and is from trustvote.org and is now on the top of the page

The 2016 California Primary: A Disturbing Situation

I have noted before, but it is worth repeating, that I live in a suburb of Columbus, OH. Bob lives in a big house and Bob and Cliff have their legal offices in the house and they hold a monthly salon. I have been going there for a couple of years and trust what they say. I have several books from their operation and slogged through a couple of them, but it wasn't until I watched the 1 1/2 hour video pointed out by Steve D that I was sure that elections have been stolen.

Talking to Bob about it, he says that on one hand, elections are simple, just counting. On the other hand with 8,000 local jurisdictions and 50 states and secret software, and voting machines owned by right wing Christians in OH, but private ownership in many states, unaudited systems, etc. and being inclined to believe them because of the experience of 2004 in Ohio bringing snacks to mostly black voters standing in the rain to vote many hours after polls closed, ... even I had not gone to the other side. Elections are being stolen in the US.

I had not gone to the other side until I watched the HBO movie on line recommended by Steven D right here. A reminder it is,

Hacking Democracy - Full Documentary

I know this comment is too long - but I wanted to get it out because here is a legal assist to Cliff saying that Bernie actually won the primary. She doesn't provide the details. But I trust that after working for well over a decade on this issue and knowing that politicians, media, etc. are in denial about election fraud, without a strong case they would be trounced. They told John Kerry that the election in OH in 2004 was stolen and he didn't follow up on it. Here is the video from Cliff's assistant posted June 30, 2016

Bernie Sanders actually won Nationwide by 15% . Lawsuit update

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She names this site in the video

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Fuck Hillary. Fuck Trump.

Fuck American "elections".

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I'm no expert, but I did teach high school math for 17 years. One aspect of the curriculum was the recognition of bias in graphical representations of data. I could have used the graph above as an example of a biased graph. The reason is simple: the differences shown are exaggerated by the failure to show the entire height of the bars. I've reproduced the graph without the bias below.

This may seem minor, and perhaps it is. But I would argue that when attempting to convince people of something they are predisposed not to believe--rampant election fraud--we had best be extremely scrupulous about truth in reporting and accurate representation of the facts so as not to provide the skeptics with easy excuses to dismiss our claims.graph.png

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