Open Tummler 04/12/16

On Sunday evening, and well into the night, I was compelled to draft a 34-page legal brief. I am too old for that sort of thing. And so, now, I am pretty worded out. Thus, here, I think I am just going to free-associate. And see what happens.

Once I asked my brother what was the difference between a "canyon" and a "gorge."

He replied: "It requires fewer teeth, to say 'gorge.'"

Then he added: "And it requires no teeth at all, to say 'arroyo.'"

My brother, he was a man of many wisdoms.

He liked Beethoven's Sixth Symphony. The "pastoral" one. He called it "going home." A reference, in part, to the film Soylent Green, where it was featured heavily on the soundtrack.

I ran that film for someone some years ago. After which she said, "I'm glad I waited to see this until it became a documentary."

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Beethoven, he consumed mass quantities. Quite commonly, the man would pour huge tankards of booze down his throat, all day, and all of the night.

In fact, some say it was alcoholic cirrhosis, that killed him. While others say, no, it was syphilis. Then there are the lead-poisoning partisans. And the people of hepatitis. The sarcoidosis devotees. And those who cleave to Whipple's disease. This last, I think it involves an irresistible urge to squeeze rolls of toilet paper.

There are still various Beethoven hairs and skull fragments floating about. And so, periodically, some Science Man, he will subject one or more of these to Tests, and then write a Paper about them.

Because, for the dead, there really is no "rest in peace." Not any more. Someone is always digging you up, rolling you into some Lab. Even if you go to the trouble of having yourself cremated, this may not stop people from, decades on, writing whole biographies, about your balls.

The father of Gore Vidal, Eugene, he had three balls. Apparently they were all the same size. So far as I know, they are not in a Lab.

Gore Vidal, who only had two balls, he observed that there was irony in the fact that these days George Santayana is pretty much forgotten, except for something he said about forgetfulness: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

This is too bad. Because Santayana, he had many wisdoms. For instance, he knew that "chaos is perhaps at the bottom of everything."

But if Santayana were going to live for but one remark, I would prefer it be his observation that "there is no God and Mary is his mother."

The brain, it can play with that one, and a lot longer, than with the "past" thing.

"Santayana," that is not a rock band. But it could be.

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When I was a youth, there were two pop songs that would cause my father to want to stab and shoot. "Windy," and "A Horse With No Name."

When I determined that my father needed to be Punished, I would play the latter, over and over again.

My brother, he possessed a copy of the Woodstock album, with a skip right where Joe Cocker, in "With A Little Help From My Friends," erupts into a massive, prolonged, vomit-scream. This hideous noise, it was eternal, until my brother nudged the needle. Which he would refuse to do. On those occasions when he believed the parents, they needed to be Reprimanded.

"Vomit": that is one of those words that looks and sounds just like the thing it describes. It's pretty gross.

Then there's the Australian variant—"chunder." One pictures with that word, someone like Russell Crowe, sweating, weaving, heaving heartily, in some tumbledown back-of-beyond booze-shack, as he prepares to toss another dwarf.

There is, for no reason known to me, some genetic programming in cats, that commands them to keep moving, whenever they vomit. Generally the cat, when beginning the barf beguine, must heave in at least three distinct places. I asked the tubes why this is, but they wouldn't tell me.

This current crop of cats, they are unusually sensitive to the emotions of human beings, as expressed through the television. Any emotion, high or low, that pulsates out the TV, causes the cats to get up and leave the room. It's just too unnerving.

The radio, now that is not a problem. A clinically insane person, like Runt Limprod, or The Mad Bomber, or The Hairball, they can screech without surcease, there on the radio, and the cats don't care. Maybe the difference, with the television, is that there the humans, they are also visible.

The cat buried out there under the naked-ladies birdbath, it took him a while to get acclimated to the reboot of Battlestar Galactica. There was so much death and anguish, particularly in the early b5e7e93bce1b6fe3fb09a5f366960563.jpgepisodes, that he needed to express, via vomiting, his solidarity with the suffering.

My brother, he was one of those human beings who was consitutionally unable to vomit. He only heaved twice in his life; on both occasions, after consuming a corn dog at the county fair. This makes sense. A corn dog, that is such a monstrous object, that any human body, it is going to want to get rid of it, and as quickly as possible.

Back there in mid-March, I erased The Hairball from this universe. It happened: trust me: it is just not fully manifest yet.

It is like sometimes, in battle, a soldier, he will be running, and he will be shot, and killed, but he doesn't notice it for a while, notice that he's dead, and so he keeps on running. For a while. That is sort of what is going on, now, with The Hairball.

But he is definitely fading out. He does not know how to have even the delegates he has won, and even his number-one fangirl, she is estranging herself. Also, he is no longer a menace in my dreams. For a time there, nightside, he was a real annoyment: showing up to, like, bellow his nonsense right into my earhole, as I was trying to drive a bus.

But last night, he was old and bent, teeth bad, not much hair, a burnt-out carny, trying to urge people to his county-fair booth, out on the midway, to there throw baseballs, at milk-bottle stacks. But people weren't interested. They just kept walking on by. It was sort of sad, really.

This universe, you know that it is basically just fucking with us, when you learn that the loudest natural animal noise on the planet, it is made by a penis.

99.2 decibels, blares the noise_comparison_0.jpgthing, sounding forth from that wee beastie monikered the "lesser water boatman."

I am surely glad, that human males, they are not able to produce sound with their members. Because then all the world, it would be deaf.

The boatman, he creates what actual Science Men have termed "this colossal acoustic din," by rubbing his johnson against the ridged surface of his abdomen. The entire noise-making assembly measures about 50 micrometers across, or roughly the width of a human hair. Which should provide fresh meat for the perennial "does size matter?" debate.

The little loud guy, he starts rosining up his bow when—you guessed it—mating time comes around.

[The dude] can create mating calls as loud as 99.2 decibels, which is the equivalent of sitting in the front row of a loud, full-blown orchestra, or standing 15 meters away from a hurtling freight train.

"Remarkably," said Stratchclyde University's James Windmill, "even though 99 percent of sound is lost when transferring from water to air, the song is so loud that a person walking along the bank can actually hear these tiny creatures singing from the bottom of the river."

The Science Men were at first Confused, but now they are Sure. Says Windmill:

"We were very surprised. We first thought that the sound was coming from larger aquatic species such as a Sigara species [of] lesser water boatmen. When we identified without any doubt the sound source, we spent a lot of time making absolutely sure that our recordings of the sounds were calibrated correctly.

"If you scale the sound level they produce against their body size, Micronecta scholtzi are without doubt the loudest animals on Earth."

The Science Men rushed their discovery to a conference in Glasgow, where they "are now keen to bring together aspects of biology and engineering to clarify how and why such a small animal makes such a loud noise[.]"

Hell, the "why" of it is answered easily enough. Guy wants a woman.

I didn't make any noise at all here, Saturday, much less any "colossal acoustic din" of 99.2 decibels. For I failed then utterly, in my duty to post the Saturday open thread. Because AT&T ripped out my tube at 5 p.m. PST Friday, and didn't reconnect it until late Saturday night.

They gave no reason for this.

I only have the one tube. A thin green wire, coming out of the wall, that goes to the skeletal Arris monolith, and from there to the Mac Mini, the Ooma, and the Roku.

I have no other computers. I have no smellphones.

So, when they clog this tube, I am back in the 19th Century.

It was sort of relaxing, really.

But then they unclogged the tube. And so now I am back on Medicine.

I don't get why it's called an "open thread." Because a "thread," it is not generally "open." Nor is it "closed."

Weird.

People, they are always whining and moaning, about human overpopulation. But what about chickens? There are 19 billion of those things running around. Three times as many chickens on the planet, as people.

The extraterrestrial film director Werner Herzog, he has observed that when you "look into the eyes of a chicken, you will see real stupidity. It is a kind of bottomless stupidity, a fiendish stupidity. They are the most horrifying, cannibalistic and nightmarish creatures in the world."

A chicken is key to the finale of Herzog's Stroszek, in a sequence which pretty much sums up the human condition.

At the time of fliming, Herzog's own crew scorned the footage: they "all found the scene very stupid and embarrassing; everyone asked whether we were really going to shoot such rubbish after spending so much time on this stupid film. 'Please,' I said to Thomas Mauch, 'just point the camera, press the button and let it roll until the film runs out. This is something very big.'" And so it is.

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riverlover's picture

why the military zombie exercises included defending from zombie chickens. Those guys are real...close...

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After school the group of DFHs I hung out with would descend on a little luncheonette of the wrong side of Main Street.
Doris would head straight for the juke box and drop a Quarter in the slot.
This is what she played... everyday... without fail.

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Then she'd fish another Quarter out of her purse and play these three again.

Doris would shimmy and sway "guarding" the juke box waiting to pump another Quarter in as soon as these three finished so she could play them again. The box wouldn't let her play R E S P E C T three times in a row. Sometimes she would let one of us pick the "filler" song. 25 Miles was often my choice.
By the end of four Quarters most of us were ready to strangle her. Smile
Then we would all drift off to home.

What a happy memory to wake up with.

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No, I don't actually bother to read his ravings, but in article after article, he gets his ass handed to him in the comments.

Ha! Take THAT, you whore!

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while in high school. Shortly before contracting the disease, he'd been hanging around an "experimental" high school for thems what couldn't fit in in normal schools--hippies, mostly. While doing so he'd managed to make the intimate acquaintances of two girls there.

Now, The Bro is home, in bed all day, and supposed to be resting. One girl would come visit the poor wretch in the mornings, administer her tender mercies, and fuck him flat; the other girl would come over in the afternoons and finish the job. The Bro was a complete physical wreck.

One afternoon while passing a joint around, my BF and I were lamenting how long it had been since we'd been laid. My BF and I couldn't actually remember how long it had been. Then The Bro looked at his watch, "Well, it's been..." whereupon we smacked the shit out of him.

One day, the girls met each other coming-and-going.
"Hi, ______. What are you doing in this neighborhood?"
"I'm going to see The Bro. What are you doing in this neighborhood?"
"I just came from seeing The Bro."
They compared notes.
The Bro went back to dating Rosey Palm and her Five Sisters.

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abnormal my high school years were.

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Happy Tuesday.... hopefully we here in the Great White North have seen the LAST of the white... and are going to be ~just~ Great again for a while...

Well our ~illustrious~ NDP leader, Tom Mulcair got his ass handed to him by his party. He will remain leader in name only for the next little while (as much as TWO YEARS) while the party looks for someone to replace him. IMO it was a huge mistake to replace Jack Layton, who died in 2011 with Mulcair. Layton had charisma... Mulcair... he has a beard... *shrug* but not a whole lot of personality. Layton was a champion of the Left...Mulcair, as centrist as Clinton (IMO).

Everyone here was so fed up with nearly 10 years of Teapublican wantabe, Steven Harper, that many voted strategically to take him down... that is how we got Prime Minister Dreamy, Justin Trudeau. I think it will be okay...we will have to wait and see...

But out of this kerfuffle has come a push for the NDP to embrace something called, The Leap Manifesto.

A question for my fellow Canadians, how many of you have heard of The Leap Manifesto, and what do you think of it? Frankly, on the face of it, I think it just may be a really GOOD way of bringing truly forward thinking Progressives not just in Canada but around the World, together. And by golly, a lot of what is proposed could be coming right out of the Sanders campaign, i.e. Post Offices as banks...etc.

So I hope we can get some discussions going on this...

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Overnight rain here. At light there is the dreaded white on the ground. Not to fear, temps are about 2 (Fast calculation) so it will revert to brown within hours.
As a USAn, I am fascinated by Canadian political parties and politics. I was familiar with the name of Ken Dryden who was aiming higher in Liberal? NDP?circles some time ago. From his college hockey days, which preceded mine (college, not hockey).

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but Dryden is a Hamilton native (where I live now) and is pretty famous around these parts. But I don't think he is in politics anymore. He was a member of Paul Martin's Liberal Party and served for about 10 years or so...

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they elected the opportunist Mulcair - a real clintonista - instead of someone who would carry on the same tradition as our Smiling Jack. After 20 years. Sure enough, he squandered an historic opportunity for the NDP to govern - with a majority - for his corporatism.

I've been with the Greens since then, but, um, meh. I would consider returning to the NDP if they select a true democratic socialist again. We really liked the NDP candidate and he came around often in our neighbourhood. The Green candidate never showed up; neither did his sign. But we had to flip this riding back to its traditional Liberal side. So we held our noses and voted Liberal.

I've since lost track of the NDP internal game. I read about the new manifesto this weekend. Thanks for the link; I'll download it and read it. What are things like? Are there progressive leadership candidates? With some charm - any charm at all! What could you tell us?

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I was allowed to vote in (I AM CANADIAN, now) and the NDP MP on the Mountain here in Hamilton had been so good to me when I was going through the immigration process
(she was at my swearing in!) that I joined the party as soon as I could...but I was SO disappointed with Mulcair I quit... so I too voted Liberal. ANYONE but Harper was pretty much the feeling around here.

I cannot tell you much about who might run for leadership...Some appear to be way more Conservative than I could possibly stomach...And the party appears to be split on the subject of keeping the oil in the ground or building pipelines to the moon...and back....

Frankly I have been paying so much attention to the US election I have neglected Canadian politics. We will have to learn together about what the NDP has in store...eh?

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At least me! From platforms i felt that I would ally NDP. But Mulcair. I recall that it was almost an installation when he was named leader, including accusations of carpetbagging. With near-zero charisma. Correct me if I am mistaken.

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Someone on the CBC said this morning that while Jack Layton came up through the ranks within the NDP and was genuinely loved and respected by everyone within the party, that he was "family"....Mulcair was "hired" to win the election... and once he lost, he pretty much was fired for non-performance. There isn't a whole lot of love lost on him from the party members. I believe in his early career he was a Liberal...

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may be another option? As a USian, not sure how strong the Party is in your parts, but they certainly have a better presence than in the US.

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Right now it is basically a 3 party system...Conservatives, Liberal, and the NDP.... we have TONS of smaller ones...the Greens have ONE member of Parliament, their leader, Elizabeth May.

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ever democratic election here in Canada. It is a real cool country in which to vote. Paper and pencil, the way dog had ordained it. Run by an independent election organization, Elections Canada, which has real teeth. In races with semi-palatable candidates - no public loons allowed :=)

Well, I'm glad to have some company; we'll learn about what the post-corporatist-fling-WTF-was-that-about? NDP together. I'll read the manifesto tonight - us retired duffers putter in the garage a lot - and we'll talk.

BTW, my jaw dropped at Premier Notley all "rethinking" pipelines. WTF? The Quebec Premier is having zero tolerance for a pipeline to the east. Thank dog for our first Nations. He knows he'll have revolts all over QC. Enjoy your day my firend,

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The tales I share here are my Remembrances. For most of our lives we were like Siamese Twins. That included the time we were married to women who knew each other before they knew us.

The stories I like to remember are sort of funny, though tinged with a sprinkle of pathos--The Bro being such an adept fuck-up--that he lives on by being committed to "paper."

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Andy - "Pal" - Alan

Forgive me while I go cry.

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I just wanted to tlet you know how much I have enjoyed your tales of the misadventures of you and bro. (((hugs))) Sad

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Ex-boyfriend, but I still considered him a good friend. It was determined that he had sixty thousand $ when last heard of, but, on the other hand, he'd recently suffered a massive psychotic break, so the prognosis was dim.

I am sorry that happened to you, it is deeply horrible and crazymaking.

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Have you ever looked in the frozen, microwavable dinners section at the grocery store? 95% of them contain chicken. That's why there are 19 billion chickens.

I used to work with a woman who, one day driving, passed a truck full of chickens. She said the sight, sounds, and SMELL was so gross, vile, and repulsive that she never touched another piece of chicken. She eventually became vegan.

A local "healthy" store near me sells packaged salads. Most of them contain chunks of chicken wrapped in plastic and tucked to one side. If I wanted meat, I'd buy meat. I want a salad. I sometimes buy one and throw the chicken out.

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When we manage to extinctify ourselves, they can take over and set up an Animal Farm.

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You have to watch out for those pigs. Once we are gone or weakened, those pigs will surely evolve and kill us all.

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and boars! feral! I have great respect of the fear kind until they are butchered. I think the feral boar problem is spreading, along with emerald ash borer. They might be in cahoots for continent domination.

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once who insisted on going next door and knocking the neighbor's house off its foundation. She refused to explain why. No fence could hold her. It was probably a mistake to name her Eleanor, after the wild woman of Aquitaine.

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Great series. One of my favorite postapocalyptic series.

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I started working at a chicken ranch. A tiny one, for our neighborhood, only 40,000 chickens, in various stages of growing up, laying eggs, wearing out. I collected right about 20,000 eggs, every day, 365 days a year, for three years. I had chicken clothes that I would take off, and leave outside, when I got home. My mother wouldn't let them in the house. I don't eat chickens any more. Or pigs (we raised pigs at home)...or cows, goats, sheep, ducks, bunnies. I'm going vegan just a little bit at a time.

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stole a jar of honey from [who knows where]. She ate the whole thing in one sitting. They hadn't seen honey in three years.

After that she developed an allergy and never ate honey as long as she lived.

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drank a bunch of hot chocolate at a church function. He never could stomach chocolate for the rest of his life. Everything in moderation - good saying.

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got REALLY shnockered in college on Coors...yeah, it took a lot. And I was sick for three days... toilet hugging sick... cannot stand even the smell of beer anymore.

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many, many years ago when I turned 21 I lived above a pub and would wake up, go downstairs and have a bourbon. Sometimes just an Irish coffee. I'd go to the supermarket and get a bottle of rum. It was great!

So one night I was at a party and had a beer, then some bourbon, then tequila, then gin....you get the idea. Everything was hilarious! Oh, how I laughed! I remember someone telling a joke. "Why do Jews make bad golfers? Because they slice their putts". Funniest thing I'd ever heard....although in my state I believed I'd just heard "Why are Jews like dolphins?" Then I had some wine. Then I headed for the bathroom where I spent half the time throwing up and half the time apologizing to my hostess. Eventually I got into a car, stuck my head out the window like dogs do and went to bed. To my surprise I woke up the next day.

And for some reason my mind and body react to the very last thing I drank that night, the wine. Too bad, 'cause shaz likes wine and it would be nice to share with her but the aroma makes me queasy.

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bourbon. It was the first alcohol I ever drank and I got sick on just one glass. To this day, the smell of bourbon makes me nauseous.

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just stinks. Even people who drink it will admit that.

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Coming from a man who committed endless stupidities in his youth where beer featured prominently!

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Coors...that's why it took a lot to get me sloshed... Wink Bunch of college kids... out on the town during summer classes... hit every bar in town. Had to be carried back to the dorm... never, EVER did that again!

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I was 17 - in college - and we wanted screw drivers. No OJ. We used Tang. Can't drink either to this day (my 75 yo brother still drinks Tang - is that crazy???).

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I was thirteen. Probably a good thing all round, developing an aversion to SC.

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kitchen table. I remember thinking, "Oh-oh, this is not my ceiling." With the breakfast plates surrounding me. The buggers had had breakfast over my corpse :=)

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A scene in a Quentin Tarantino film.

I hope you were at least clothed.

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Now I know why you went up in the airplanes. To get away from the chickens!

Once I went into a couple long sheds in which were imprisoned the many chickens. They were all clucking softly, in waves that rose and fell. It was quite spooky.

As individuals, I like chickens. When I have raised them, they have defied the stereotypes. Humans certainly peck at one another far more than do chickens. A chicken internet, for instance, would be an oasis of peace and serenity, compared to this one the humans have concocted. And they are not really stupid. Any chicken is smarter than any person who sees any worth in The Hairball. The roosters, they do not babble all the live-long day. They cluck when they are proud to have found some food for the hens, and they crow when the sun goes up, and when it goes down. That last is their job, and it is vital. I used to read to my daughter a book wherein the rooster one day got sad, and so didn't crow, and as a result the sun refused to rise. I think I remember that day.

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Yes. Mostly. We had half a dozen chickens at home, and they were wonderful, even liked to be held. The masses of chickens, though...I am amazed I have never had nightmares about that experience.

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this tube, Queen Victoria invented the chicken.

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He was in 4H in high school and was a good pig judge for competitions. He decided we needed to raise a couple of pigs. I'm a town girl. I didn't grow up with animals - NO ANIMALS. My mom (nee 1908) was raised on a farm and was hell bent never to have animals EVER AGAIN! My older brother was allowed to have a cocker spaniel. No one has ever told me how long he got to keep it. I got a cat once and mom put it outside after I tried to leash it. I can't remember how long that took me, but it was probably by the afternoon. It lived outside from that moment forward. I was allowed to have a bird - Mr. Happy - a blue parakeet, which I loved. I was not allowed to have it out of it's cage. I got it out of it's cage at my grandma's house and it flew off. I was looking everywhere for it when I found it. How did I find it? I don't know if I can tell you. Maybe next time.

Oh, yeah, back to the pigs. We stopped at these people's house, who were raising pigs. RAndy said, we have to get two because they eat better (animals compete for food) and will grow and get fat and then we can butcher them. What he didn't tell me is that they escape and wreak havoc all the time. I'd look outside - there they were, at the door, looking in at me wondering if they can come in for a cuppa joe. I never let them in. RAndy said, follow them back to their pen. They'll go in how they came out and we can secure that escape hatch. It worked every time, but they always found another way. They finally grew and we had them butchered and we bought a pig from a young 4H girl from then on. No more pigs for me.

We've had chickens lots of times. I love having my own chickens for the eggs. RAndy wants to get chickens again. My hesitation is that when we go anywhere, someone has to come and feed them. I'm so over that. I do love having eggs from my own chickens that I am feeding and free-ranging. We'll see what happens.

Anyway, almost 3 years ago we tried going vegan, but we're old and it was hard, so now we are vegetarians/pescatarians. We eat eggs, about 5% dairy, and once-a-week fish. I'm thrilled that I no longer eat any meat or poultry. I feel I'm making the planet better - even though I'm but one small contributor (okay - RAndy makes two, okay - my daughter makes three).

Have a beautiful day, friends!

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My partner calls us "pescavegetarians".

P.S. my mother made costumes one Halloween for my sister and I, as Raggedy Ann and Andy. Top notch. Somewhere I (or more likely my sister) have pictures.

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My real name is in my profile. Raggedy Ann is a name I adopted in the 70's. Someday, I'll write a diary about myself. Actually, it might have to be a series. LOL!

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raised our kids vegetarian. Nothing to it, except for all the hard work.

One kid is vegan and the others are straight vegetarians. Lovie eats fish and I eat dairy and occasionally the South African biltong, similar to jerky, when I get homesick. Lovie tried duck eggs and they worked for a while, but then her tummy revolted. Duck eggs are different from chicken eggs: more dense protein and more nutrition, I'm told. Anyway, I always say that vegetarianism isn't a religion :=) Any effort at consuming less meat helps the planet and our bodies.

My biggest problem is that donuts and desserts and cakes are vegetarian too...

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I found similar foods that are vegetarian, like Jordan Almonds, dark chocolate peanut M&M's, I better stop there. Oh, one more - vegan ice creme, made from coconut milk and one made from almond milk. Very tasty! I can have blueberry pie (also vegetarian;)) with vanilla almond milk ice creme. What does one call vegan "ice creme," anyway? Inquiring minds want to know.

As a young woman (in my hippie days if the early 70's), I was vegetarian. My son was vegetarian the first year of his life. I don't remember what precipitated our return to eating meat, but, there it us. I always tried to have two meatless meals a week, though, while the kids were still at home, which, as a single mom, helped.

Then, I met the cowboy from the panhandle of Texas. Carnivore. Raises beef (and pigs, but that was an earlier comment;)). I always felt okay about our beef because we raised it and knew what it ate. We'd raise two, sell one, which paid for ours. Then RAndy had a health scare and that changed everything for us. He's fine, but we've never looked back and enjoy our diet.

Whew! That was long. Smile

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Hecate, when we did not see your Open Sesame Thread on Saturday, I went into withdrawal. Good to see you and AT&T have made up and are operating back together once again. Smile

I am still recovering from the descent of the cyclists this past weekend. I almost have gotten everything back to normal (?) in my house once again. Wink Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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a very strange outage. Instead of afflicting a specific compact geographical area, it honeycombed. The feed people across the street were fine; I was not. A gas station went down, but not the the restaurant next door. Etc. Word is that both local hospitals had their tubes yanked out, which sounds like a really bad idea.

I'm glad you survived the swarm of cycling locusts. ; )

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you might have just created a monster :=)
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Chickens are fun. In fact, let's have some Foghorn Leghorn.

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From the wall of the Clinton NY HQ :=)

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At the bottom of everything is the CIA.

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Oh boy, it's like waiting for Christmas.

By the way, JtC, ol' buddy, ol' pal, could you make the yellow "New" label in the comments just a tad larger, a couple of points maybe? It's hard to see when scrolling at high speed through long threads.

No hurry. Just, you know, in your spare time, maybe.

TY Smile
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I had asked if the New marker could have an extra character to it, even just a dot, like .New so that we could use the browser search feature to search for New on long threads. Too often now there are too many occurrences of the word new elsewhere, and even a member called CroneWit so it messes up the search.

Joe saw that request, but I'm not sure JtC did, so ... in case you are here Johnny.

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come in here. But now he is too Important and Busy. And so, I am Sad. ; (

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Never "woke up" to the majesty of Beethoven's Fifth until I saw the movie Conrack waaaaaaay back when. That would be the film version of Pat Conroy's book The Water is Wide. Yeah, the book was way better than the movie. And anything is better than the present day Jon Voigt. But I still remember the scene where the kids are introduced to the Fifth for the first time. BUH BUH BUH BUUUUUUHHHH! BUH BUH BUH BUUUUUHHHHH! Death knocking on the door. Do you hear that mean ol' death knocking on the door? Here's the film's finale:

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effective use of Beethoven is the allegretto of Symphony 7 in the true-life documentary film Zardoz. That is the movie that, through the bellowing of a giant flying stone head, succinctly expresses the ethos of the Americans:

the gun is good
the penis is evil

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And that's not the only place that piece has been "effectively used". Last January I was able to attend a performance of the short ballet "Magrittomania" at the San Francisco Ballet. Dance is music visualized ... and visualizing Beethoven ... well, what can I say?

Enjoy!

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Oh my! I'm so grateful for stumbling upon that movie (original), maybe 6 years ago. Didn't see the whole thing, but I immediately ordered the book and loved it!

Loaned it to my brother who would walk to work reading it. I got a lone text from him, "Thank you!" I asked what for, and it was for introducing him to The Water is Wide.

One of my favorite books, ever!

RIP, Pat Conroy.

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on a rainy Tuesday morning.

Singing penises, the waltz of the vomiting cats (of which I am all too familiar), a rapidly fading Drumpf. Its like the best sort of dream.

Unlike the actual dream I had last night, which featured a cast of high school friends and enemies in one of those dreams designed to show one's flaws and all the ways in which one sucks, in case you were thinking of getting too proud of yourself.

English is a stupid language, continuing with the "ones" above seemed a bit much, but if one doesn't, one risks sounding like one is referring to someone else... sigh.

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sorry about the bad high-school people in the dream. High school was not a good idea. It was designed as a preparation and storage facility for the children before they went into the factories. There aren't really any factories any more, so there shoudn't be any high schools, either.

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but I had seven (SEVEN!) of the most amazing teachers I have ever met. Two are still very good friends, and through them I keep in touch with a couple more. She was a flower child, and he a surfer (we still surf together when I can get over there). A couple were Vietnam vets that really had enlightening things to say about it...one was a WWII vet, with his own perspective. There was some sort of vortex that pulled them all into my High School (my two close friends were in their first year there, when I started). It wasn't the Principal...he was a Nixonian freak.

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One especially, Dr. Weist, was a PhD of English, and chose to teach high school, bless her. She was amazing, taught AP English to a bunch of snot-nosed kids.

But yeah, high school was definitely weird. Its funny it still comes back to haunt me, I pretty much never dream about college or college friends, but high school is a regular program on the dream menu.

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I've had the pajamas dream, but once or twice the naked dream - that one is particularly discomfiting.

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good teachers, too, as well as a counselor who protected me from evil: that is, the principal and the dean.

Still, it was a factory.

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and went to Hawaii. Missed most of my senior year, working (taping drywall). So maybe I had less exposure to it...or maybe it was because my college experience was so gawdawful, that High School didn't seem to bad.

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with them, and they were finished with me, after my junior year, but at the time there was no legal way to get out early, without being a "dropout." So I had to, as a senior, go to, like, two Potemkin classes. By the time my brother entered the factory, they had passed the law where you could bail at 16, so long as you could demonstrate you had sufficiently Learned.

I made it through half a semester of college before I jilted the place to follow the siren song of a commiehippie newspaper.

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to do over, I would have gone to Oxford, and would today be a professor emeritus at that institution. I would shuffle around the halls and grounds in one of those sweaters with the cigarette holes in them, and then retire to my wee twee estate, where I would keep lions.

Or, I would have remained in the pharmaceutical industry, and established a Kurtz compound in the jungles of Bolivia. Today I would have a modest post in that nation's government.

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cigarette Berned sweater and all...but not as a Kurtz. No way.

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After years of a straight A average, won a scholarship to university based on test scores, where I lasted a whole two semesters before they kicked me out for failing to understand the purpose of going to class.

I agree with you wholeheartedly about having it to do over. If there was one thing I could tell young 'uns today, it would be that where you wind up living is super important; plan for that.

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I found an early admission program at a state school - and I have no idea how I found it in the pre-Internet world, but that's how badly I wanted out.

I don't think I could have taken all 4 years.

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High School was the happiest time of my life (and it wasn't bad since then, no complaining at all). Lots of great teachers - didn't care about other students, I was a geek. One with the most lasting influence was my history teacher, the first self-professed leftie I encountered.
He taught us that there are at least two sides to every issue, by assigning e.g. two books instead of one for learning about the Korean War.

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and at 3 of them my father was either a Principal or a Guidance Councillor/Teacher.
You want to talk about weird... Wink

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reminds me of a bad novel.

"I liked high school, it was the town I hated"

That's an exaggeration...maybe. But I had a choice, once I graduated, of starting in the summer, just a couple of weeks out of high school, or the fall. I chose summer and pretty much never went back.

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of the GOOD ones...

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Retired Philadelphia Police Captain Lewis was arrested today with a few hundred people for staging a sit in at the Capitol building... Arrested for fighting to stop big business in elections (citizens united) fighting to end the voter Suppression which has run ramped in this election cycle and demanding the attention of main stream media!

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from his FB page-they kept him OVERNIGHT because there were floating accusations of him "resisting arrest" and attacking another cop-yeah rriiight.

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arresting officers see him as some kind of traitor to the uniform...

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Couldn't quite figure out who's side he was on. Thanks for the clarification.

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was a big supporter of the Occupy Movement too. Good

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it's so stressful to recognize that there is nothing in it I too wouldn't be not interested to know.
As Another Pissed Off Liberal, There Are Some Things I'm Not Interested In.

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The Empire Files: Empires Feed on Congo's Treasure
There is a section about Lumumba in it. I remember my former deceased husband having grown up as a teenager with Lumumba as one of the main influences on his political conscience in his highschool years, had one of the very first records of his speeches (in French). Later on in the 1970ies Lumumba's son lived in Cameroon as a refugee so to speak. The son had lost his mind and considered a broken man, who was considered fallen sick mentally.
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The documentary is very good, imo. Well worth to listen to in full, especially the end. Great work from The Real News Network and Telesur.

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