When I said Western Sahara would be a general election issue, Clintonites laughed (and worse)

Here is the piece where I raised the claim fifteen months ago: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/7/9/1400647/-Hillary-Clinton-s-Wester...
If you don't want to read it at Daily Kos, you can read it at my little "change the world" hobby website: https://gardenvarietydemocraticsocialist.com/2015/07/11/hillary-clintons...
(Here's the initial piece a week before when I first raised the scandal--in the context not of politics but of my anti-capitalist democratic internationalism:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/05/1399252/-Anti-Capitalist-Meetup...
https://gardenvarietydemocraticsocialist.com/2015/07/06/part-3-on-the-ne...)

My outspokenness on this issue indirectly resulted in the first of my two suspensions from Daily Kos. A Clintonite was so abusive to me when I raised the Western Sahara matter in a comment to a Hillary Clinton glorification piece that I carried the wound to a future internet encounter where I accused the person of being a shill working for the Clinton campaign with no evidence, other than circumstantial and logical that is, which isn't good enough to even ask the shill question. (I don't feel like looking through my thousands of comments for the glorious encounters, but they were doozies I can assure you.)

And now, it is indeed a general election issue, being raised not only by her opponent-- https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/21/politics/clinton...
--but also by the MSM.

A writer in the Atlantic says:

[T]his exchange about Morocco, first reported by The New York Post, is the clearest example yet in the emails posted by WikiLeaks of the type of arrangement that people find most, well, icky about the Clintons. Bill and Hillary wanted a deep-pocketed donor to make a large contribution and foot the bill for a ritzy conference, and the king of Morocco wanted access to the woman who, then as now, was the leading candidate to be the next president of the United States. The Clintons didn’t apparently care that, as the Post noted, Morocco had a spotty record on human rights. The State Department has cited the Moroccan government for widespread corruption, and the government-owned mining company that paid for the CGI meeting has been cited for its own human-rights abuses.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/21/politics/clinton...

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Huma Abedin squarely lays the whole thing at Hillary's feet in an email to Podesta. No matter what the offense, no one will be held accountable unless Trump wins. Obama and Comey already proved that.

This in graphic format was on FB yesterday: "Guys, I am really afraid someone is going to win this election."

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

TheOtherMaven's picture

La Strega or Il Stronz'. For all I care they can both va fangool'. I have a feeling I'm going to be very familiar with a lot more Italian profanity by the time the next Presidential election comes around....

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

You are so optimistic.

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TheOtherMaven's picture

if they don't want open rioting and outright revolution. Haven't you noticed they've got it down to an art form, allowing the illusion of choice without it making any real difference?

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Wink's picture

So true.

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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

Citizen Of Earth's picture

And of course PfP gets little airplay in the MSM. The MSM treats it with a wink and a nod and says nothing has been proved in a court of law -- so it didn't happen. We know about it because we read at alternate news sources like C99.

But people like my brothers wife (and I love her dearly), just don't know/believe about Hellery's corruption. And she is so looking forward to Hellery becoming the first historic woman President. She actually said to me, "You just don't want a woman President". To which I replied, "I most certainly do. But I want an honest one, Jill Stein". That was the conversation ender. Hahahha.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Galtisalie's picture

until I remember the first woman U.K. prime minister.

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gendjinn's picture

Up until the last few years every single first woman head of a country was right wing evil - Thatcher, Ghandi, Bhutto, Meyer, Merkel. Seems we're getting back into the old groove with HRC.

Go flashbacks to the 80s!

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thanatokephaloides's picture

She actually said to me, "You just don't want a woman President". To which I replied, "I most certainly do. But I want an honest one, Jill Stein". That was the conversation ender. Hahahha.

Mentioning Zephyr Teachout in such situations has a very similar effect.

I wonder how much longer we'll have to wait until we hear of Ms. Teachout's forced DemExit......

Diablo

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

sojourns's picture

You're quite the astute observer. Very telling essay. I look forward to seeing this unfold-- that is if it continues to come to light, Personally, I had no idea that phosphates were mine and used on this scale.

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

But it's "only" half a million people. They'll only get attention if they achieve a modicum of success at fighting back against the empire of money. Guess they need to name their movement Indigenous Separatists for an Independent Sahara.

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Galtisalie's picture

everything we say we stand for, including democracy and liberty and justice for all. But they are the occupied Saudi Arabia of phosphate, which will eventually be the world's most valuable commodity. So they would have to embrace terrorism to get our notice, and then only so that the MIC could raise money to destroy them.

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Song of the lark's picture

Premise Two: Traditional communities do not often voluntarily give up or sell the resources on which their communities are based until their communities have been destroyed. They also do not willingly allow their landbases to be damaged so that other resources—gold, oil, and so on—can be extracted. It follows that those who want the resources will do what they can to destroy traditional communities.

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Amanda Matthews's picture

these fanatical devotees of the Clinton creature. Every single issue, flaw, fault, and action that these people condemned prior to the election of Barack Obama has gradually become acceptable because it's their chosen

(a) idol
(b) hero/heroine
(c) savior
(d)* all of the above

that's doing it/going to do it. The types of people cavalierly ignore or dismiss these hardships and tragedies (i.e. government persecution, war, hunger, extreme poverty, lack of freedom and basic human rights) because they pertain to 'other' people, they're not personally affected so they're not going to bother thinking about it (let alone condemn it). After all, their (d)* is the one that's doing it so it can't be wrong or bad.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

The allegations are that the payment greased the skids for this Moroccan arms deal with Raytheon (a Podesta client).

Estimated $157 million in TOW missiles.

If true, it isn't just 'icky', it's downright illegal.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Galtisalie's picture

Western Saharan phosphate deposits, the world's largest, and Hillary Clinton, like Franco before her, is facilitating it.

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