Jane Sanders: Political Revolution will continue win or lose
Submitted by vl baker on Sat, 04/30/2016 - 8:07am
Jane revealed some fantastic news for Berners in her recent interview with Racheal Maddow. Jane told Racheal that the 'Political Revolution' will continue win or lose!
I'm with Jane in believing that Bernie can pull this off, but in the event that doesn't happen, it's inspiring to know that Bernie and Jane will continue to fight against the massive political and economic corruption which exists in US today.
Here is entire interview with Jane Sanders. Section on continuing revolution begins at 4:45, but it's a great interview, I encourage you to watch the whole thing.
Note: This is my first essay at Caucus99%, so cross fingers that it looks ok.
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oops, looks like I should have published at preview when video was visible, now don't know how to edit.
I think the edit button is at the top of the diary
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Good to see some familiar 'faces'.
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Glad to see you're one of them vl.
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Welcome vl baker
good to see you here.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Thanks Steven D!
great to see you too!
From the video - YES, Bernie has spent the most b/c no SuperPACs
The others are spending money coordinating with their campaigns. Hillary is unabashed about coordinating, and Trump is accusing Cruz of coordinating.
No surprise that Bernie's campaign is spending more from that pot of money.
Oh, good - Jane sets Rachel straight.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Bernie doesn't have to pay for spin
and propaganda and dirty election tactics. Those can get very expensive. Bernie saves a lot of money by telling the truth. No web of lies to untangle.
Beware the bullshit factories.
For a very bright and well-informed person,
Rachel certainly needs a lot of setting straight when it comes to Clinton campaign memes. Funny how that works.
Twain Disciple
Her Slip Is Showing
Rachel Maddow is very much in Hillary's camp. It isn't an accident that in her corporate media world V starts both Vote and Vagina.
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
V
Susan Sarandon begs to differ:
[video:https://youtu.be/iBYfACA724M]
and Rachel might find out that V stands for some other, not-so-corporate-friendly things, too:
[video:https://youtu.be/ACUpr5GvVsE]
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
That's Quite A Leap You Made There!
Do point out where I mentioned Susan Sarandon. I was talking about Rachael Maddow - and ONLY Rachel Maddow.
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
No major leap required.
You brought up V and Vaginas.
Had you watched the clip, you would have found the now quite famous saying of Ms. Sarandon's, "I don't vote with my vagina", which is quite appropriate here.
It's why I, not you, brought Ms. Sarandon into the conversation, to directly answer your question.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
She's not getting set straight often enough. n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Best part of the interview (for me)
was the knowledge that they're clear as to the next steps. Not gonna surrender until it all plays out. Then plans for keeping the movement going. Excellent!! Can't wait to see everything unfold.
BTW, good to see you here. Just recently I was wondering about you. Always looked forward to your posts.
Agee. Bernie and Jane are always on message
They're an inspiration. I believe they stay on message because it's authentic, they don't pander or triangulate.
Happy to see you again, too
That was great news for me too
I've been hoping that Bernie would accept the responsibility of helping transition the movement on from his campaign to its next phase of growth. I never thought the Democratic party would give him the chance to win its nomination, and indeed the party has done everything possible to prevent it. Bernie probably had the same view when he started, I suspect, and ran to help coalesce the new social democratic movement in our politics. He's already been stunningly successful in achieving that aim with his campaign.
So hearing Jane say this helps me believe this line of thinking is correct, and that she and Bernie already have the next steps mapped out. Transitioning the movement away from a presidential campaign into something stronger and more durable is the most important -- and most dangerous -- step we have to take. Figuring out what our relationship is to the Democratic party is a part of that transition. I trust Bernie to have a good sense of these questions, and to have the willingness to lead the movement forward. He knows it's not ready to have him step back yet, but I suspect helping it graduate from his leadership with strong forward momentum is very high on his priority list.
Thanks for the essay and the interview link, vl! It's wonderful to see you here. You're an incisive thinker and a wonderful writer -- we're lucky to have you.
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spot on, DD, as usual!
Two things have been running steady in my mind throughout all of this.
1) Bernie's statement/meme "Don't underestimate me!"
Any time I wonder about which variety of paths forward can we choose? or when I feel overwhelmed and full of doubt (which is about 90% of the time!), I revert to that phrase. He didn't endure {however many years it's been} in 'politics' and in Congress, by sheer luck or plain stupidity. He is a brilliant, shrewd and principled man. A rare and powerful combination of traits. A beacon in the dark!
2) We have to also learn how to not underestimate our selves and our collective power. To me, the ONE most central and essential piece of this whole "political revolution', the prime directive, is: We are not powerless! Together we can achieve great things! But the first step is to accept and embrace that concept. "When we stand together, we will always win." When enough people fully realize that (and it doesn't have to be a "majority") we reach critical mass and then we can flip this thing.
Thanks for your (always)spot-on comment DD!
Talk about incisive thinkers, you're one of the best anywhere. Thanks again
The establishment plays a long game
Not only have they done things directly in opposition to Bernie, the Democratic party has arranged things over many years so that any non-establishment candidate is going to face an uphill battle; the "super" delegates were put in place just to keep another McGovern from happening.
Beach babe! Great to see you here!
I've enjoyed your diaries at DKhaos. I'll look forward to your essays here.
That Jane Sanders is awesome. What a terrific team they are. They'll be wonderful for America in the WH.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Thanks Raggedy Ann!
I don't have much time but hope to write some political and environmental essays. Great to see you!
The Clintons would be an embrassement
Much better than having Slick and Slack, the Grifted Couple (apologies to the Magliozzi brothers).
Yay vl baker in the house!
Welcome this is good I look forward to the conversations around here. Thanks for the essay and video. I really like Jane on the TV machine, glad to hear her talk - like a real yuman being. I am still imagining her as FLOTUS. She is, they are getting so much input from all the people it is great. Keep going!
Peace & Love
Thanks eyo!
Peace and love right back to you!
Thank you Jane. This is great news to hear.
I assume Bernie will wait until after the convention to launch the organization that will house the revolution. Hopefully it will also vet and endorse true progressive candidates so we can do a Courtesy Flush On Congress.
And Rachel Maddow, yuck! Clinton Lap Dog. She has lost it.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
"Courtesy Flush On Congress" ... You are far too polite ;}
It's going to require shovels, buckets, dumpsters and at least two 55 gallon drums of anti-septic cleaner.
We need to instill the notion that this level of interest is required every two years or the profit-before-people fecal matter is going to keep filling up the whole stall.
Not a pleasant image, i understand, but better us than our grandchildren.
You get used to the smell. ;}
21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.
Former Bernie Staffers are already launching it!
Show 'em some love:
https://brandnewcongress.org/
It's a big club...and you ain't in it!
Nice!
Thanks for the link.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Yes, Yes and More YES .....
$28 per contribution seem fitting?
21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.
I was read to sign up
until I saw a request for my phone number. I use a separate e-mail address for political stuff. I absolutely don't want anymore unsolicited political phone calls. If this group sets up a website, I will follow it.
The phone number is optional
I left it blank and could still register with them. I don't answer strange non-local calls anyway. If they're someone I want to talk to, they can leave a voicemail and I'll call them back.
Hey VL!
Good to see you! Hope all is well!
Going great, Thanks geebeebee!
Looking forward to being here!
"Revitalization of the Democratic party"
Been saying all along that was what this "political revolution" was all about, the democratic party.
The party that will be led by Hillary the Warmonger Clinton when she wins the nomination and possibly the presidency.
No thanks. For those of us done with the democratic party, that's a real dead end to Bernie's revolution.
We have to see how the election plays out.
If Hillary loses, which I believe she will, the party may finally get the hint that they're no longer the party of the people. If we can push the party back to its roots (FDR), perhaps it will again represent us. I'm just a little uncomfortable abandoning a major party, as this country has never dealt well with more than two parties. But, then again, I'm old enough to abandon politics altogether. I'm willing to wait and see what emerges from this revolution before I determine my next step.
Fixed It For You - and more
If Hillary loses, which I believe she will, the party may finally get the hint that WE KNOW they're no longer the party of the people.
...this country has never dealt well with more than two parties.
Based on recent history, we aren't doing too well with two, either.
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Good interveiw, but was more proud of Jane for not being
bullied about their taxes on With All Due Respect. She used the time, instead to reiterate this message that we (all of US) are in it to win it.
21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.
What an incredible difference between the audiences.
Sanders' are animated, cheering, loud, happy.
Clinton's look like wooden dummies.
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Shhhhhhhhh, AB.
No one was supposed to know they put those wooden dummies in the audience to make it appear more people are attending. It's much cheaper than paying them to attend. Oh well, the secret is out now!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Truth in advertising. Those wooden dummies
are the only spin-free part of the whole Clinton campaign.
Hillary Clinton 2016: I'm a proud progmoderate!
Looks Like Rachel thinks it's time to be magnanimous
now that the candidacy has been settled. Jane does really well correcting Rachel's (broken) record. She seems comfortable now even as Rachel does her "um hmms" and left handed compliments. Good for her and good for us that she gets to tell everyone how it is in spite of MSM spinning (the broken record).
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
It's helpful to remember
that anyone (including current "big time" people on tv) consider a Bernie
revolution a threat to their current lifestyle.
Great Interview
I'm glad Jane Sander's interview with Maddow is getting attention here. I actually just posted (a very late, sure to be ignored) comment at BNR about it. I was extremely impressed by how Jane dealt with Rachel and very happy to hear about what is to come, with or without a nomination.
Good news
I'm Bernie or Bust. We all are in this house. I hope he goes Indy once the R&Ds steal the votes.
I'm am so sick of Rapepublicans and Democrats. Both of them suck. One is crazy religious bigotry BS and the other is crazy corrupt and in bed with high finance.
I had always thought the Democrats were gutless.. Now I believe they are just worthless jackasses.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
Today's Dems are Rockefeller Republicans
a/k/a Country Club Republicans. Only a few of those are left in their original party. The remaining Rs are fundies and No-Tax Norquist maniacs. Truly horrifying. But as far as I'm concerned, the Country Club gang is just about as bad. They'd just as soon poor people who don't have a skill they value would die as not. Selfish. Heartless. Arrogant.
Twain Disciple
If only they were that liberal.
Given their murderous foreign policy, contempt for labor and civil rights, and cheerful adoption of ethics-free campaign techniques, I'd say they're closer to Nixon Republicans.
And indeed, that is what I've begun calling them: The Nixonian wing of the Democratic Party.
(Major exception: their coziness with Wall Street does put them more in the Rocky camp than the Nixon camp.)
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
But they don't hate gays.
and they're pro-choice as long as abortion is "rare." Yes, they have the morals of Nixon. Money is their god.
Twain Disciple
Note that Nixon's SCOTUS appointee, Harry Blackmun,
was more pro-choice than HRC v.9.23
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Nixxon
(it's just the same old gas) h/t Mad Magazine
Shrillary is Nixon. And, in fact, I just might owe Tricky Dick an apology; he wasn't the bloody war hawk Shrillary has proven to be.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
If she wins, I will rework Hunter Thompson's
dedication to Nixon, from The Great Shark Hunt, thusly:
To Hillary Rodham Clinton, who never let me down.
Which will be true, tragically enough for humanity.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
The Poor Unemployed Still Have A Value
"They'd just as soon poor people who don't have a skill they value would die as not."
Everyone without such a valuable skill still serves. They can stop a bullet when Freedonia Goes To War.
edited title
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Go Green or Go Home!
I already decided to switch from backing Bernie to Jill Stein. I'm hoping Jill Stein can attract enough votes to set the Greens up for a fusion party in 2020, following the continued demise of our entire political system.
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
I got the same message
at a "Bernstorm" meeting last night where about 100 supporters showed up to meet with one of the former Campaign staff who is now volunteering as an organizer.
The campaign will fight for every vote and delegate all the way to the convention. Depending on the number of votes and delegates acquired there will be a contest at that Convention.
Its about the principles, the political principles and the philosophical principles. It is about responsibility, accountability and humanity.
A lot of the people in the room were Bernie or Bust. Personally I'm for the movement with Bernie and beyond Bernie. I'm for us!
Bernie and Beyond!
That's a better name than Bernie or Bust. I like the possibilities.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejwrxGs_Y_I]
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
oh, oh, do you fly your planes like that?
makes me feel like my head is spinning
while safely resting in my bed. Daredevil pilot...
not quite like that
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Nice to see you vl!
I stopped watching Rachel a year ago. She appeared to be struggling in that interview. Jane was superb.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Thanks
that was a good interview.
Good to hear their long-term about some of their long-term goals.
Speaking of big bucks...
Even when Rachel Maddow is pretending to be respectful and sympathetic, she has that irritatingly condescending tone that makes it oh so clear that in her heart of hearts she devoutly wishes Bernie Sanders and all of his supporters would disappear in a puff of smoke, never to trouble or provoke Her Highness Queen Hillary again.
Which is not too surprising, all things considered. According to the website notjustrich.com, Rachel's annual income is a cool 7 million dollars. Which puts her solidly in the top 1/10th of one percent, right along with her idol and BFF Queen Hillary. Literally, Rachel's monthly income is greater than Bernie Sanders entire net worth.
To quote the inimitable Upton Sinclair: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Pretty sure it's no different for a woman.
Know thine enemy, peeps. Know thine enemy.
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Yeah, Rachel's all about the money and power.
I got kind of sick of her when she didn't speak up for Olbermann, whose shoes she is not fit to wipe and who gave her her big chance. But now? Ugh. She is in the tank for Clinton without question. Anderson Cooper is on CNN in that time slot, and since I switched from Maddow, I have come to realize how good he is. He's much more of a journalist than she is, and he isn't nearly as fond of the sound of his own voice. He's also much fairer -- but maybe that's because he's been rich from birth and takes big money for granted. (That was certainly the case with such people as FDR and JFK.)
Twain Disciple
Rachel sold out a while ago.
Twain Disciple
The elephant in that video...
was that the HRC campaign is not paying for any air time in the upcoming states. Now why would that be? Could she be out of funds? I know it takes a lot to buy super delegates and voter suppression, so she may be running a bit short.
While the super pacs will pick up some of the slack, the states still left to vote hold a boat load of delegates that could change the whole direction of the primary. No advertising budget might indicate that something is up. Other than relying on super pacs to do her dirty work are there shenanigans at work with voting machines or other poll issues that we may need to figure out...soon?
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
FSC's Super PACs have ads scheduled to be aired
against Trump, beginning the day after the Dem Party Convention.
Because of the official Press Release (from Bernie's campaign), her campaign doesn't see the need to continue spending money on running ads against him--for now, anyway. The official statement [released last Tuesday evening] emphasized his platform, and/or taking his agenda to the convention--not pursuing an electoral path to the nomination.
Her PACs still have money, but from what I've read, her Campaign has been spending at a higher rate than she is taking in contributions (unlike Bernie). So, it's partly being prudent with her funds, since she will need a truckload for the GE (if she wins); and partly, because she/her campaign believes that they have the nomination in the bag. (rightly, or wrongly!)
Excellent video--thanks for posting!
Mollie
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